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When I deleted my last LiveJournal (about mid-summer of 2010) I left all of my comments and community posts behind - even stuff that anyone else might want to delete to save face (since, you know, I could act up a lot over there, and back in the full flush of my youth - from my mid to late 30s - I did).

I figure if you post anything, even comments - though they seem so throwaway in nature - you create a record of yourself, and for better or worse I wanted to preserve that record, to look back one day and say, yeah, that was me then, but this is who I am and where I'm going now. Of course I've got a lot of LJ tied up in my memories, but reading what you've written makes the reality of what you've said and done that much more concrete.

So it came to pass a short time back as I was reading a DW community post that a Dreamwidthian mentioned LJ deleted every comment she ever made after purging her account. And I thought, oh no, that must be why all record of me was expunged from [livejournal.com profile] thefulcrum, a fact that puzzled me until that moment. I mean, to erase literally hundreds of comments and break so many threads seemed far from...from what I knew of Liz, I guess you might say.

I made a mental note that night to check other LJ communities to see if I'd been expunged from them, too. I was particularly anxious about [profile] s2_bloggish because I wrote some tutorials for them that I was kind of proud of. But I figured if LJ wiped my comments, they'd also wiped my posts. Then I let a month go by, because I was too afraid to find out.

I finally dared take a peek tonight and while my tutorials are still there (here's one, so I assume all three are still kicking around) the comments I made on them are gone. Blotted out. Erased. On the tutorial linked to above there was a thread between my CSS mentor [personal profile] av8rmike and myself, just disappeared (I can still remember what it was about, too: he was telling me my wording was off, and I was keeping him posted on my edits as I made them).

How does that help any of LJ's users, that they can't even follow a comment thread properly anymore? What's the point of erasing comments with purged accounts? When I deleted my LJ accounts, purging comments wasn't even an option - they just went ahead and did so without even asking. If they had asked I would've said no.

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Date: Feb. 8th, 2012 06:33 pm (UTC)
lethe1: (lom: relieved smile)
From: [personal profile] lethe1
ACK! Nowadays people have the option to delete everything, but I had no idea that if you don't choose that option, comments will be deleted anyway in time. After I read your entry, I checked my own LJ for comments by friends that have since deleted their journal, and sure enough, they were all gone!

I freaked out, until I remembered that I imported my LJ in December 2010. Their comments have all been preserved here, THANKYOUDREAMWIDTH!

I think I'll post about this myself and crosspost to LJ, to remind my remaining friends there once more that LJ is getting shittier by the minute. Would you mind if I linked to your entry, or would you prefer if I kept it anonymous?

ETA: But now I found this in the latest news post.

Maybe it's only a glitch? Both communities you mention have the default comment pages.
Edited (added link) Date: Feb. 8th, 2012 08:44 pm (UTC)

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Date: Feb. 9th, 2012 12:06 am (UTC)
lethe1: (a2a: worried)
From: [personal profile] lethe1
Thanks! I'll wait a bit to see how this develops, though.

The way I understood it, the bug they will fix is that the default comment pages show "deleted comment" instead of the comment itself. You shouldn't need to have to put style=mine and/or switch to a plus or paid account.

That may be wishful thinking on my and the commenter's part, though. I haven't seen the original statement by a staff member. Besides, nowadays LJ seems to think that we won't mind paying for things we could get for free before, and elsewhere.
Edited (clarity) Date: Feb. 9th, 2012 12:08 am (UTC)

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Date: Feb. 8th, 2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
sophie: A cartoon-like representation of a girl standing on a hill, with brown hair, blue eyes, a flowery top, and blue skirt. ☀ (Default)
From: [personal profile] sophie
I believe the comments are actually still all there, but they just don't get shown in the new commenting system style. If you have a journal style which doesn't use the new commenting system, you should still be able to see them if you use ?style=mine in the URL so that they display in your style.

I could be wrong about this, but that's what I'm remembering offhand.

[edit: Confirmed - I can still see your comments from [livejournal.com profile] anti_aol by putting ?style=mine in the URL.]

[edit 2: I still disagree with the decision to not show them, of course. It's a sucky move and not something they should have done. That said, at least it's *possible* to get to them still.]
Edited Date: Feb. 8th, 2012 10:41 pm (UTC)

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Date: Feb. 8th, 2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
lethe1: (ad: whine)
From: [personal profile] lethe1
Only for paid or plus accounts though. :(

A commenter in the latest news post said that LJ had admitted it was a bug and that they were working on it (see the link in my comment above). I hope that that is true, and not that it was a conscious decision (oh LJ, all your conscious decisions have been so terrible lately).