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In my last exciting post on the topic, It's not that hard, really, so why use multcloud or mover.io or..., in which I got mad at myself for using a middleman (in this case, Multcloud) to move files I could have easily moved between cloud storage services myself, causing me to go into a Brain, where art thou sort of fit, I ended with the single uplifting thought that:

"The one upside to OneDrive's rate limits is they apply only to new uploads; after re-reading the details on Microsoft's 2015 blog post [...] and checking out the fine print on the current offer, it seems they won't delete previously uploaded files, nor deny access via downloading or sharing.".

That was a completely inaccurate conclusion to jump to. The truth of the matter is the polar opposite:

An email from Microsoft informing me I'll be denied access to my OneDrive files on Sept. 7, 2017

The body of the email featured in the screencap above reads, with emphasis mine:

Your [redacted]@live.com account is 5.8 GB over your storage limit of 5 GB.

You can no longer add or sync new documents or photos. Changes made to existing OneDrive files will not sync between devices or the web. If you remain over your storage limit, your account will be frozen on or after September 7, 2017, and you will not be able to view or edit your files.

Please remove 5.8 GB of files or purchase more storage to bring your account back to normal. [Right? Sure, let me hop right on that, you thieves. I mean, why can't I even access the files I'm entitled to keep on OneDrive after the time limit is up (5GB worth)?]

Luckily (well, I don't know how "luckily", since I don't like using any Google product besides search, but Google sure is coming in handy right now) I've got 15GB free storage on Google Drive - more than enough to keep what I've got going on and add a few files without having to pay M$ to "upgrade" to the still-limited storage they used to give away unlimited and for free.

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After logging back into DW tonight and having a look at my email and recalling what my last post was about I instantly had my "duh" moment..."duh" being why would I think I have to use a moving service like MultCloud or Mover when duh...*tears hair* you can just download any drive service at all (Google Drive or whatever) and fucking transfer the files yourself?

*vicariously takes a moment to smash things*

I mean Jesus Christ it's just copy/paste it's not that fucking hard

OK, I'm done destroying myself over my Captain Obvious moment. I don't always have one but when I do they're often actual fucking tragedies.

Now I wonder why third party services choose to get involved in transferring files from one drive (or cloud) service to another (besides the obvious goal of "money") when really, it's not that fucking hard - what are they looking to get from it? Usernames and passwords to various file storage services? The files being transferred? Both?

And I guess I wouldn't be so pissed - both at my lack of foresight and the mover services for existing when I don't trust their motives, especially if they offer as generous of a "free" service as MultCloud does - but in 24 hours MultCloud *still* hasn't finished moving files, so I just got done moving them myself, which was when I realized I could have done the entire move without them - just download the Google Drive software and let the copy/pasting begin....

Christ, my own burns burn me sometimes. Ouch? But yikes, this was just too obvious self-flagellation ftw

Also, Google has no Drive for my Win10 phone, so at best using it on my laptop will be a temporary solution. The one upside to OneDrive's rate limits is they apply only to new uploads; after re-reading the details on Microsoft's 2015 blog post and checking out the fine print on the current offer, it seems they won't delete previously uploaded files, nor deny access via downloading or sharing.

Then again, you have to trust Microsoft to not cut off your access at some point, which I don't trust them not to do, not at all.

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Updated 5-20-17

So, back in 2015 when OneDrive decided their free, unlimited storage for Office365 was no longer free or unlimited, and that free storage for all other users was no longer capped at 15GB but was now just 5GB, I too was stuck with the prospect of losing several gigs of data if I didn't Do Something.

Most of those gigs were comprised of music (about five out of eight) so I just transferred the entire contents of my OneDrive to an external notebook, copied the music into an offline folder on my laptop and let Microsoft cut my storage down to the new, much lower 5GB limit. Yeah, we all went from having "free, unlimited storage" or "15GB free" to 5GB, how does that even happen?

Well, ostensibly because Microsoft was mad at people "abusing" it by keeping 75TB in the cloud, which makes no sense - which part of their own "unlimited" offer did they not understand? I'd have walked away from OneDrive at that point, but it's tied directly into Windows 8 and 8.1 and Windows 10, and I've pretty much stepped up to each new OS as soon as the betas have come out, and having cloud storage integrated into my OS has been totally privacy-wrecking convenient, so I didn't want to give it up.

Luckily (if you could call it that) I broke another person's tablet around this time last year when it bounced off a table I was vacuuming under, which smashed up the screen (I really, really hate Asus tablets; the stupid, smashable screen is just one reason for that), which made me the unproud owner of said tablet (I never use it; I'll probably flip it, broken screen and all, on eBay someday) and forced me to buy another tablet to replace the one I broke.

When the other person got their replacement they offered me their license for Office365, which also gives you one free terabyte of OneDrive storage, so that undid my cloud storage limit until tonight, when I got the dreaded email saying the subscription expires soon.

Microsoft first offer was to keep my subscription going by "automatic renewal", which made me log into OneDrive and cancel right away (though Microsoft doesn't seem to have my bank info on file at the moment). With that fire out, I decided to see how much they want. Well, of course they want a lot, so their next offer was to renew at $69.99. Naaaaaah. The next was to renew at $99.99. Don'tcha love it when you reject their last offer so the price goes up? What for? Oh, for the "Premium" package, of course. Pfffffft.

So I checked what it would cost for just storage: $1.99 per month for 50GB; not bad, considering most cloud storage can cost a lot more. So I tried to sign up to see what the final cost looked like - if they'd be charging me for a year or more in advance, or if they'd actually be charging me by the month, only to be taken to this page telling me I currently have an Office365 subscription with 1TB of storage. I tried again and again, thinking maybe their system is just hiccuping, but no, Microsoft will not let me buy more storage. So there's no buying it in advance, I guess?

Being unable to see what the final price would be for more storage has ticked me off so much I'm moving everything to Google Drive as I type this. I'm using MultCloud to do the entire file transfer, which has made 41.27% progress copying files (out of 10.5GB of data) since I opened DW's editor to write this. I imagine it'll take a while, but I can wait.

The one thing that bugged me about moving to Google Drive is I don't want my OneDrive files tied to my main Google account (I do have one, but use it mostly to recover my main Outlook accounts when I change passwords; I use another to forward Dreamwidth email to Outlook, because Microsoft mostly just bounces it) but I got around that by just picking another Google account I never use, that might've once been tied to an Android phone of mine (or two) but no longer is.

The next thing is figure out how to get Google Drive to show up on my computer (I last used it years ago, long before it was an official app, and that version did have software for the computer side of things) so I won't have to go online to find and work with my files, but the phone side is where I might get screwed; I use an older Windows phone, and while it's running Win10 Preview (it's not supposed to, but it does) the Win10 app store is awful, so I'm unsure if there's a Google Drive app for it, or if there is, if it'll work (the camera in BoA's app, for example, doesn't, so I can't use it to snap pictures of checks, which was the whole point of having it, since I already get alerts and notifications by email).

But when I think of Microsoft charging $2 per month for something they used to offer 10GB more of for free, and realize they're holding all my intangible things hostage, that's all it takes to realize I don't care what a PITA Google Drive might turn out to be because it's the principle of the thing.

ETA, 5-20-2017: The Windows store doesn't have a Google drive app for Windows phones - there's a small chance I might be able to "sideload" the correct app, but if not, I'll either have to go without or find something else that syncs my phone with my laptop.